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DEVELOPMENT
REVIEW BOARD MINUTES
Approved Minutes of November 3, 2005
Board Members
present: James Arisman, Tom Daley, Jon Groveman, Martin
Johnson, and Gary Wilson. Also attending: Zoning
Administrator Bob Light, Michael Schumacher, Thad Gouge,
Rich Gouge, Arthur Gilman, Bruce Cook, Vicki Cook, Jason
Cook, Dina Bookmyer-Baker, Lawrence Black, and Mike
Fritz.
At 7:05 pm the
Board and Zoning Administrator Bob Light discussed Bob’s
suggestion that the DRB make it clear to interested
parties attending permit hearings that, under State Law,
they must have “participated” in the hearing in order to
be eligible to appeal the DRB’s subsequent decision in
the matter. As Jon characterized the requirement, a
party would at minimum have to indicate during the
proceedings that they have a concern with an aspect of
the proposal under review. This allows the Town — via
the DRB — to address any such concern prior to having it
brought before a State court for appeal.
Bob updated the
Board on the status of the current development proposal
by the Christ Covenant Church. Following last month’s
resolution of the DRB, they submitted a new Zoning
Permit application to Bob as a prerequisite for
consideration of their new Site Plan application. Bob
reported that he had denied the new Zoning Permit
application, for the reason that the height of the new
church building — as he calculates it from their
drawings and his interpretations of the Zoning
Regulations — would exceed the 45' limit. He also
reported to the Board that he had advised the applicants
that, if they intended to appeal this denial to the DRB,
they might be better off withdrawing their current Site
Plan proposal until this particular matter was decided.
Following discussion, the Board decided that Jon would
write to the Church and advise them that the DRB would
await word from them on how they wanted to proceed
before scheduling a hearing on the pending Site Plan
application.
Tom reported to the
Board that Dave Rogers had not submitted his new
Subdivision application in the week following the
Board’s meeting with him on October 6th, and thus there
had not been time to warn a public hearing on the
proposal for this evening. As he has now submitted the
application, the Board will warn a public hearing on the
application for Thursday, December 1, 2005 at 7:15 pm.
Tom also reported
that Trevor Tait had not been able to file the mylar of
the plat for his Subdivision within 90 days of its
approval by the DRB. Under a state law in effect at the
time the permit was issued, this failure would void his
Subdivision approval, requiring him to reapply. However,
by the time his 90 days was up, the state statute had
changed. Under the new law, subdivision applicants now
have 180 days following permit approval to file a mylar
of the plat with the town’s land records. The Board
decided therefore that it would be proper to consider
his subdivision permit valid unless and until current
law requires that it be voided. Tom will write to Trevor
and co-applicant Ellen Cooke, informing them that they
now have until January 23, 2006 — 180 days from the
approval of their Subdivision permit — to file the
mylar.
At 7:30 pm the
Board opened public hearing on the Subdivision
application of Thad Gouge and Michael Schumacher. They
wish to subdivide approximately 75 acres on Upper Depot
Road into 4 lots. As presented, Lot #1 would be 4.35±
acres, consisting of a hayfield bounded by stone walls
on the west side of the road. Lot #2 would consist of
1.65± acres on the west side of the road, including an
existing house, barn and outbuildings, and .35± acres on
the other side of the road, for a total of 2 acres. Lots
#3 and #4 would each consist of about 34 acres; the
applicants intend each of these two lots for
construction of a single family residence.
Arthur
Gilman testified that he had looked over the property,
and identified for the Board those areas that consisted
of wetlands. In his view, the areas planned for new
construction were sufficiently removed from any of the
wet areas.
Questions were raised about the shape of Lot #2. The
portion of the lot on the east side of the road is a
narrow strip running perpendicular to the road along the
northern edge of the source parcel. Board members
observed that, in combination with the land on the other
side of the road, it makes for a peculiarly shaped lot.
Michael stated that it was their intention to sell Lot
#2 and its existing home, but that they needed to
include some land from the other side of the road in
order to meet the two-acre minimum lot size. However,
they did not want to include more of the land along the
road directly across from the house and barn because
that area contains a valuable spring that they wish to
retain with Lot #4, along with an existing garage and
shed.
Adjoining landowner Bruce Cook informed the board that
his property and that of another adjoiner have rights to
the spring in question, and that it is the main water
supply for their homes. His family had no objection to
the proposal as a whole, so long as the development
activity does nothing to compromise their water supply.
Tom
raised the fact that the property the applicants wished
to subdivide had already received approval from the Town
for a 6 lot subdivision in March of 2000. Michael and
Thad said that they did not know this before, and the
prior approval had no bearing on their current plans.
They sought only to create 4 lots total from the source
parcel, and emphasized for the record that they intended
to cooperate with whatever the DRB may require of them
to gain approval. That being said, they also wished the
Board to keep in mind their own property rights as
owners and future residents on the property, and to
weigh these interests fairly when considering whether to
approve the configuration of lots as they proposed them.
Jon responded that the Board would certainly give them
this consideration as owners of the property, and has
done so throughout the process. Hearing closed at 8:45
pm.
The Board then
turned their attention to a letter received from Larry
Babic, regarding his Conditional Use application that is
currently before the Board. He proposes to build a home
on his property on Clarence George Road. Conditional Use
approval is required for the project because portions of
the development area are on a slope that exceeds 15%.
The Board has already made a site visit to the property,
and opened the public hearing on October 6, 2005. Larry
and Patty Joslyn were represented at the hearing by
Craig Chase, their septic engineer. Following testimony,
the Board had decided to recess the hearing in order to
engage their own engineer to provide a second opinion on
the suitability of the area for the proposed septic
installation. Larry’s letter took strong issue with this
action.
Martin
reported that the consulting engineer had arranged to
visit the property with Craig, but that Craig had not
yet provided the details of his own site work for
review. Tom will write to Larry and Patty on behalf of
the Board to let them know where things are in the
process.
At 9:00 pm the
Board took up discussion of a proposal by Martin that
the DRB include a reporting requirement in future
Conditional Use permits it grants for commercial uses.
This would make it a duty of permit holders to file an
annual certification with the Town that their use of the
property has met their permit conditions. As Martin sees
it, the Town has little or no ability otherwise to
ensure that the carefully considered conditions and
limitations that the Board includes in its permits will
be adhered to over time. Concerns were raised that this
would add a new oversight obligation, requiring the Town
to monitor whether every permit holder has made their
report each year, and that the fact that the permitees
are certifying themselves would limit the reliability of
such reports. Tom also expressed his own concern that
new obligations be imposed on landowners only where
there is a clear need, lest the accumulating red tape
have a corrosive effect on public acceptance of our
zoning rules. James responded that there would also be
an erosion of the integrity of the zoning rules if
permitees felt they were free to ignore conditions that
had been imposed to protect the interests of neighboring
landowners. The Board will make a decision on this
proposal when in concludes its deliberations on the
Conditional Use application of Daniel Arguetty and Roger
McKeever.
At 9:40 pm Jon
moved to accept the minutes of October 6, 2005 as
drafted. Seconded by Gary, all approved. Martin then
moved to adjourn the DRB meeting. Seconded by Jon, all
in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Tom Daley
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